Xbox 360 Liquid Cooling
Posted on Jan 2, 06 09:42 AM PDT
You’ve all heard of the stability issues of the Xbox 360, right? One of the many theories is that the console overheats and crashes. It’s quite frankly possible, because I bet that they are being manufactured at yields limits to respond to the demand. CoolIT has just announced a liquid-cooling system that totally replaces the original air-forced cooling of the Xbox 360. That would be pretty sad for consumers if they had to liquid-cool their game console… Talking about the strong demand for the Xbox 360 I noticed in a report that it actually sold less units than the original Xbox… Manufacturing could not supply nearly enough. Press Release
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By 10GrimReaper01 , 04/07/08 2:36 PM (CommentID #763416)
Ive had no problems with overheating but the DVD drive died and I replaced it. While inside I did take a look at the cooling system which is flawed but useful no there is no water cooling sytem so there!
By hugaboogaman408 , 09/06/08 2:38 PM (CommentID #719271)
this thing is wayyyyy to expensive to even buy and my 360 has never overheated ur all losers
By Spartan-117 , 14/05/08 10:20 AM (CommentID #676454)
the cooler works by using water to transfer the heat from the chip whrough the tubes and into a radiator.(the box) This is much more effective becouse it is harder to heat water than it is air. So the water can transfer more heat.
By Spartan-117 , 14/05/08 9:57 AM (CommentID #676432)
They all have metal conectors, what elce would they use?
By ceb , 17/04/08 4:14 PM (CommentID #637809)
use an intercooler, the new ones with metal contacts dont fry, durrr
By qwerty , 04/04/08 11:22 AM (CommentID #609652)
alot of pepople thought that the hddvd was better than the bluerays. technikly i mean.
not complaining though cause i got me a bluerays player, looks nice
By patrick , 24/03/08 6:41 PM (CommentID #584560)
btw you dont have to liquid cool your 360 to get it to stop overheating. if your 360 crashes after a couple of hours there are ways to fix it....trust me you just cant be scared to open the thing up and void your warranty...i did and fixed it in 30 minutes and spent 4 bucks at kroger to do it
By patrick , 24/03/08 6:37 PM (CommentID #584551)
i like how you say the entire xbox is liquid cooled....ther is one heat sinc on the cpu that has a liquid pipe on it....thats all ....if all 360s were liquid cooled there would be no point to have cooling fans now would there. and dont believe everything you read on the internet...
By Matt , 15/01/08 10:33 PM (CommentID #432186)
Actually its not the same kind of liquid cooling, and the cooling thats in the 360 isnt efficient enough to keep it cool. The 360 uses a heatpipe technology where when the system heats up theres a little bit of liquid in the heatpipe that boils and turns to steam which goes through the pipes and recycles itself back at the bottom which cools down the air in the system. Its completely different
By Jim , 01/01/08 8:13 PM (CommentID #414309)
I just lay it down horizontally with a 1 foot diameter fan blowing the hot air away from it from behind the 360. I also don't use it for more than 5 hour in a row and take 5-20 minute breaks. You're saying that all 360s have this water cooling? If so then it does crap because I bought mine very recently and it is still prone to overheating.
By Mathew Burrows , 17/12/07 3:14 PM (CommentID #396760)
PEOPLE HELLO??? THE 360 IS ALREADY WATERCOOLED LOOK ANYWHERE AMAZON, MICROSOF PROMO AD THEY ALL TELL YOU IT IS LIQUID COOLED ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS OPEN YOUR EYES AND READ!!!!!
By The PROPER dain Devlin!! , 07/12/07 1:03 AM (CommentID #386946)
Omggz guys cmon no need to take the piss just coz i like guys doesnt mean i dont know anything about the xbox!! your really not funny atall im telling rodolfo my man then youl be for it!
By the real dain devlin , 07/12/07 12:57 AM (CommentID #386943)
im going to smash u all ya bunch of poofs imagine sitting on ur computer on a friday morning threting each other .and you who impersinated me im going to rip ur spleen out u F**king wa*kjob-coz i like in leith .
By Dain Devlin , 07/12/07 12:42 AM (CommentID #386928)
Guys guys guys (oh i love guys), you need to stop arguing! party at mines for all the lads ;)
By holly t , 07/12/07 12:32 AM (CommentID #386919)
tommy f is a c**t jocky who deseves to die
By tommy f , 06/12/07 1:17 AM (CommentID #385838)
the xbox 360 is remarcanle machine wit a core duo inter hacking 3.5 systems processor . atruly beatiful crafted piece of computer love . iv fallen for it .it is quit possible ,the best thing ive ever seen. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
By GDK2008UK@UTVINTERNET.COM , 02/12/07 6:31 AM (CommentID #382063)
I have had my Xbox360 for quite some time and have had no no problems when playing Call Of Duty 2(WWII sim) and QuakeIV and got my Xbox 360 last year in March 2006 so what is going on
By anonymus , 30/10/07 8:23 PM (CommentID #349871)
IS this worth buying?!?! My mom just bought me one
By Josh , 14/10/07 11:39 AM (CommentID #334684)
An easy way too get rid of heat is too get rid of the heat shield behind the fan. They are only little holes for heat to go through and then they have to go through little holes again too go out the back. You could always cut out a square behind the fan too get rid of any heat. I realized that those fans arent that powerful so opening it up should let out a lot of heat rendering it a lot cooler than usual. You could always double up on fans. Get the fan that plugs into your usb on your 360 and get a nyko EX cooler, not the older one. The one that uses USB is a vertical stand with a fan in it. Or you could triple up and have a high performance laptop fan for gaming computers that you could set it on. you would have superior cooling, though it will look like a beast of an xbox, you will always have the assurance of playing call of duty 2 without freeze ups. I am doing the triple up right now and I have had no freeze ups and I feels a hole lot cooler out the back plus you wont void you warranty. Yes I am using a Nyko Intercooler EX. They are newly built with connectoors out of metal so you wont have to worry about heat melting the cooler to the 360.
By Josh , 14/10/07 11:29 AM (CommentID #334676)
Have any of you guys put your hand back behind the xbox 360's in meijer. They are extremely hot, but they run just fine. they leave them on all of the time. One day I was there at 10:00 in the morning and later that night around 11:00 pm ( I get bored so I go there) It was still paused on the same screen I paused it on earlyer that day. I pressed start and I started playing again. How come they can play so long and ours can't. (By the way PS3's are even worse, Every time I am there they are locked up froze)
By Josh , 14/10/07 11:29 AM (CommentID #334675)
Have any of you guys put your hand back behind the xbox 360's in meijer. They are extremely hot, but they run just fine. they leave them on all of the time. One day I was there at 10:00 in the morning and later that night around 11:00 pm ( I get bored so I go there) It was still paused on the same screen I paused it on earlyer that day. I pressed start and I started playing again. How come they can play so long and ours can't. (By the way PS3's are even worse, Every time I am there they are locked up froze)
By shadow , 13/10/07 7:29 AM (CommentID #333587)
i baought my 360 a few dayz months ago, i go to play halo 3 i take out the damn disk and then i put in halo 3, i get sound but no picture. iv done some reaserch and it says that the ava chip is at fault. iv talked 2 tech support...was on hold for an hour...ffs... they said they would send a box for it and i would have to wait from 3-3 months for its return journey back home. so im wondering, is this a good system? i mean im a micro fan iv had mostly all microsoft gameing/computer things but wdf microsoft fixe ur damn thing, i shouldnt have to go all the way back to eb games just to give my damn 360 up! or send my 360 out for months. n 2 think...all i wanted to do was play halo 3,
iv been noticeing these problems have occured (sound no image) to alot of pple. and i would liek to no if its because they have a white 360? cause from what i read from sites the elite is haveing no problems, should i switch my premiuim for elite? im soooo confused. i think halo 3 triggered this, its been happeining to alot of pple since halo 3, is the dis at fault or system?
By jjyodog , 11/10/07 8:05 AM (CommentID #331018)
look you can all call me noobs but hw do these little liquid coolers and fan coolers work because i wanna try and aviod red eye [red ring of death]
By bllingoutofcntrl , 10/09/07 10:12 PM (CommentID #297415)
My xbox freezed up a few times when i was playing ncaa 2008. so i built a plexiglass stand with two 3.5 inch fans blowing straight up at it and i hooked them up to a cell phone charger. it hasent freezed up yet
By Matt , 05/09/07 5:39 PM (CommentID #292252)
this would be great for the xbox 360 because it freezes alot. i dont care how it works or how sh!ty the xbox is i just want to get so i dont waste all that money i spent on the xbox
By jon , 06/08/07 1:07 AM (CommentID #263953)
the xbox 360 is the best console out at the moment. PS3 are crap compared to them they have hardly any games and the games are **** the only good game is resistance and that is no way near bette than tom clancys rainbow six las vegas on the 360. PS3's are ****
By Zeek on 8-5-07 , 05/08/07 1:41 PM (CommentID #263707)
I have had no problems with the power supply, But and I mean BUT I have had my X-BOX 360 lock up on me about ummmmm 1,000 times so I read the rewiews and found by simple replacing the heat sink compound on the CPU and the Video CPU under the heat sink itself it frees up the dreaded three red lights. If put it all back together and found that it still freezes up every once in a while but not as often, and I don't get the three red lights. If interested in curing the problem, get some small torics and some heat sink compound from radio shack none the less and visit this site. https://www.xbox-modchips.com/xbox360-tutorials/xbox-360-opening-guide.htm
Thanks and have a good day........
By Fatboy , 04/08/07 10:09 AM (CommentID #262793)
Just solder your fans positive leads to a 12v part on the board, no crashes anymore, job done.
By Brian , 02/08/07 8:24 PM (CommentID #261332)
My father works for Microsoft and statistics show that 30% of all manufactured Xbox 360's fail in numerous ways. That percentage goes up if you don't take care of it. It is a fragile system compared to others just because if Microsoft used premium parts the cost would be close to that of the PS3, and no one wants that.
By Pete , 02/08/07 12:50 PM (CommentID #261036)
Alright... most of you guys are n00bs when it comes to reading... No **** the 360 is air cooled. The snippet says:
"CoolIT has just announced a liquid-cooling system that totally replaces the original air-forced cooling of the Xbox 360."
Key word being REPLACE.... not HAS
Learn to read.
By don't care , 22/07/07 12:48 PM (CommentID #251471)
You're all time wasting, lying cunts
By G , 16/07/07 5:57 PM (CommentID #246518)
You guys are all dumbass's and 3.60 isn't watercooled, and water cooling would be a good thing, and if you want to complain about warrenty.....you just have to take it out and put all the stock stuff back in you F**king NOOBS
By Monkey , 18/06/07 8:17 PM (CommentID #211209)
primelink, the 360 is not water cooled. It uses forced air cooling. Open one up, and you'll see.
By Quetzl4322 , 18/06/07 6:39 AM (CommentID #210604)
OMG why are yall spazzin over sum crap?? My 360 overheated ALL THA TIME and all you need to buy is a $20 cooling fan. TRUST ME!!!!! No problems scince
By kunt , 14/06/07 9:44 AM (CommentID #206178)
um the 360 is not water cool what retard thought that and i think this is a good idea if u kno how to install water cool it can b a lil tricky but u could also easily send it into somwhere and pay them to install it, it may void the warrenty but it will save the system n the long run
By Kim , 03/06/07 11:23 AM (CommentID #194005)
Statistics show that the cumulative effects of the accessive temperatures within the Xbox will cut short the life of the Xbox 360. Even shorter if you are using a HD 1080i hookup. (component cable) I am amazed how nieve people are about their purchases. My Xbox bit the dust June 2007. The damage is done. If I put a liquid cooling system inside I'd be watching HD video's rather than typing this godforsaken comment. If you want good advice! Deal with the problem now before the damage is done. Microshaft dealing with the problem haphazardly. I hope your Xbox's are indeed unique because the picture is truly a work of art. Wow!!! Especially HD-DVD's. King Kong on HD-DVD is truly equal to if not better than Blu-Ray. Good luck! Long live your Xbox 360!!!
By thats gay and so are u , 25/05/07 10:50 AM (CommentID #181550)
this is a gay web site ass wipe so get a new one
By Matty-Matt , 16/05/07 12:18 AM (CommentID #172098)
I've had my gaming PC liquid cooled for three years now using different Zalman products and the GPU temperatures have gone from 70 deg. C. at full load and max settings to no more than 60 deg. C. at full load and around 55 deg. C. idle.
My 360 has some very noisy fans that piss me off and don't do the job. Koolance makes a kit to liquid cool the 360 and includes a CPU and GPU water block, hoses, clamps and fittings and i paired that with my old Reserator (the blue one) from Zalman which has the resevoir, radiator and pump all in one...my 360 not only looks sweet but it is totally quiet and hasn't overheated even on a 1080p LCD my one buddy has (i can't afford that kind of thing yet).
the system in the picture above is by coolIT systems, but it is for a PC and is an all in one system. i like the koolance system combined with the zalman reserator.
i'm sure most of the idiots that use a 360 don't understand the importance of liquid cooling and don't understand the liabilities and care associated with an h2o system. that is my guess as to why microsoft won't sell a 360 from the factory with one. perhaps one day when phase change and peltier cooling have been perfect (and cost effective) for micro-computer applications, overheating will be a thing of the past.
By gamer 1 , 14/05/07 8:26 AM (CommentID #170840)
why the hell would u do that the liquid will damage your xbox. might az well melt it down and play football with it
By Jake , 12/05/07 4:39 AM (CommentID #169075)
well it is all personal if you want a vancy water cooler thats fine.
Bit do not say to us that they have crapy fans when the cleary do not.
OK
By RubberShoes , 10/05/07 1:51 PM (CommentID #166985)
no its not truely liquid cooled, but i still think there are better ways of cooling it, like my 7 fan setup...
By Chris , 18/04/07 7:03 AM (CommentID #143541)
i ended up getting an overheating system and rigged a computer water cooling kit in my 360 and it worked fine until the cheapass watercool kit pump died. it does help a lot though. but you hafta make sure the water blocks are compltely horizontal, otherwise itll short components that it touches. which is why i had to buy a new one after trying to replace the cooling unit.
By GT: CS OO7 , 13/04/07 5:25 PM (CommentID #139700)
If your a gearhead like me, your already halfway there just by running your 360 with the case off with some fans.
The xbox's cooling sys is undoubly inferior to say the least. were talking about a 250w easy bake oven here. When they go, they go. 9x outta 10 is the chips soldier connections fail due to overheating Even on low res grapshic setting 480i. I've been looking for a long term fix to my temporary cooling solution. this looks like a good way out versus building a bulky PC based system from scratch.
By Anonymous , 12/04/07 1:35 PM (CommentID #138738)
i havent had any problems so far
By bob , 06/04/07 9:16 PM (CommentID #132307)
damn it only overheats if u play for like 12 hours straight and u gotta b a total freak to do that so i dont know why u would need the cooling system
By liquid cooled , 29/03/07 9:38 PM (CommentID #125749)
What do u mean u havnt heard of a 360 overheating? Im on my third one, only one of which microsoft replaced, and many I know through xbox live have this same problem.First gen, second gen machines, doesnt seem to matter. Which from what were told is system meltdown. I have liquid cooling on my pc and 3 hoses with water, pump, and a rad, makes an unbelievable difference in temps.So f*** it, i want one.
By aaron allison , 25/03/07 2:39 PM (CommentID #123178)
i have a recently bought edition of the 360 bought about jan '07 and have had no troubles... been looking into water cooling systems just in case but won't buy one unless it's determined I really need it. Just keep your eyes and ears open on it this is the first time i've heard of the problem being in the external power source so thanks for the info
By awesome man , 08/03/07 5:00 PM (CommentID #113901)
the xbox liquid cool would only be sweet if it got rid of that horrendously loud fan. i havent had any problems with overheating, its just that that fan is so damn loud.
By djdrdisco , 18/02/07 11:18 AM (CommentID #103015)
With no malice intended, for those of you who do not have a good grasp of electronics, there are two issues that directly affect the operation of the Xbox 360. If the power supply malfunctions (mine did not), you will get the red screen of death because the proper voltages do not reach the processor. My power supply has never been placed on a carpet, has had all kind of ventilation, and never got more than warm. My motherboard unit still failed, with yellow and green lights on the power supply telling me it was putting all the things it needed into the motherboard. The problem on the motherboard is the heat extraction parameters that have been marginal from the beginning. I have had one hot Xbox after playing Prey or PDZ, but the heavy processor load is not a guarantee you will fail. Mine locked up and died on an Xbox retro game after 15 minutes on. Taking the water out of the closed condensation loop will ease the problem. The current heatsink takes the condensation formed on the top inside of the fins, cools it at the very top of the fin, and causes condensation downward. It is a touted new design that didn't work very well. I treat my supercomputer very nicely, even adding an additional after market fan on the rear to cool it down more within operating parameters, and that didn't mean crap. If you aren't close to being an engineer, don't point fingers at the "only" cause. There is enough bad design in the whole system go around twice. Water cooling will reduce the amount of current pulled by the motherboard when the CPU's get hot. I view the power supply's failure as a secondary point of destruction. With all the power supply shut-off capacities, failure is less likely to happen to the power supply than it is to the processors, which are running VERY hot. Take them over the thermal overload, and they are GONE in 5 seconds. Compounding all the difficulty in diagnosing the general failure of the Xbox 360 is the company's refusal to even describe the nature of the failures honestly. All you can do is wait for the warranty to run out, then run out and get yourself a water cooled system. I am.
DJ Dr. Disco
By halo , 18/02/07 12:57 AM (CommentID #102865)
hell my warranty is hapily voided
By twitch , 11/01/07 10:51 AM (CommentID #083880)
i had one custom made for under $200. No more overheating........... =/
By Wrong , 05/01/07 12:49 PM (CommentID #081328)
You are way off base my friends.
The 360 power supply has no heat issue 1st off and 2nd the watercooled stock 360 is false.
There is a single copper tube inside the 360's CPU heatsink that has a gel in it yes but.
It has no way to circulate and thus is completely useless.
the 3 red lights or red ring of death is cause by internal and only internal overheating which causes solder to mely away from where it belongs aswell as diodes to come loose.
Water cooling the 360 does stop those problems ad I know this cause i installed it on my dead 360 after I heatgunned it to melt the solder back in place and i havent had 1 issue with it since.
However i must say that $300+ for a simple watercooling system is a joke.
Do a search and find a AWC-1 unit from Kingwin comes complete and for just under $100.
since installing and running that unit my 360 has dropped by a zillion degrees and now is running at room temperature all day long.
By jeremy , 19/12/06 6:59 PM (CommentID #075645)
wtf are you talkin about the liquid cooling system is amazing..only bad side is rechargein the liquid with it isent even bad if your not a compleat moron the liquid is only 10 bucks for a nice size bottol and the liquid doenst vaporize that quickly...once Halo3 comes out it will shut every one up
By sean , 08/11/06 7:03 PM (CommentID #062528)
you guys are dumb my system freezes all the time and crashes cause it gets hot inside not the power supply
By xbox 360 fan , 31/08/06 9:35 PM (CommentID #043300)
DO NOT buy a nyko cooler, microsoft told me that they did some research and it actually causes more heat than cooling it down!!
By MeLLoYeLLoUniT , 25/08/06 2:39 PM (CommentID #042218)
The xbox 360 does not overheat and if for some reason you are having problems buy the nyko intercooler. You dont need a liquid cooler.Trust me i KNOW
By Blu , 10/06/06 6:21 PM (CommentID #016430)
If you just put your 360 on the end you should have no problems with any over heating i took mine camping and had no problems with it and the tent was hot as hell!!!!!!!!!!!!! and yes i do have one of the first consoles bought. My friend won his from Mountain Dew and his has never over heated or melted a disk as they say. if your console overheats then you might want to take it out of the stove!!!
Diablokiller323@aim.com
By Brian , 09/06/06 10:16 AM (CommentID #015901)
Well, I agreed with all of you until last night. My 360 now has the Ring of Fire (3 red lights). Nothing special- I was playing G.R.A.W. and the thing just took a dump on me. Pulled the hard drive tried to start it back up, same thing. Called tech support and they verified that it overheated. No waiting 5 minutes for me to try again as I tried this morning and it's still dead. Without subscribing to the $60 2 year extended warranty, this might just be a valuable investment. Sad to say it. And yes, I had the 360 properly ventilated.
By UFB , 21/05/06 6:41 PM (CommentID #005406)
The cooling system in the picture above is meant for desktop pc use. the liquid cooling for the xbox 360 looks like this :
http://gaming.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=4227
I have liquid cooling in my desktop, is fantastic. The difference in operating temprature is unreal.
By fred , 29/04/06 5:41 PM (CommentID #003431)
xbox 360 have already a combined fan/liquid cooling system. Also have heat dissipator
By Charley , 28/04/06 7:50 PM (CommentID #003416)
if you don't think that the 360 overheats you are wrong. I've had to replace mine twice already... good thing for the warranties... they both lasted a little over a month
By Outcast , 31/03/06 7:42 AM (CommentID #002035)
As far as I know the console renders all the lines (1080) no mater if your TV uses 1080i or 1080p display modes.
If it would render only half for the 1080i and display them alternatelly, I belive there would be some artefacts in rendering.
Probably the textures would hit mip levels closer to the camera in 1080i which does not happen plus some post processing differences between the half-frame would be visible as well.
They could implement a workarounds but frankly I think that is too much fuss to worry about.
By xbox freak , 21/03/06 11:55 AM (CommentID #001715)
I have come with good news for those of you that need help!
To stop your console from overheating and shutting down, get a shoebox, and balance the power supply on the top of it, so that it is held up by two thin strips of cardboard. This lets the heat escape from all angles of the power supply, stopping it from overheating.
Oh and btw, third party manufacturers are working on a better power supply. :)
By jimbru barb , 17/03/06 11:41 AM (CommentID #001608)
:) i havent had any problms with mi 360 but sum1 i know had an 360 and it melted but microsoft replaced it within a month
Live 4 da past Not 4 Tha future
By Anonymous , 16/03/06 2:09 PM (CommentID #001576)
720p is 720 lines. p = progressive
1080i is 540 lines. i = interlaced
720p is more stressful as far as i know.
Dunno wtf u got happening wit ur xbox :-)
By Another Xbox 360 user , 15/03/06 2:17 PM (CommentID #001553)
I have had my 360 since November 22, and no probs until I replaced my TV. When I set it to 1080i it overheated after a few hours :( (my old TV wasn't HD). I restarted it and it only took a few minutes to overheat again. So I dropped the resolution to 720p and haven't had another problem since.
So if you just have to have the best resolution, you'll need to cool it another way. Otherwise, just run it at a lower resolution (720p still looks sweet) and keep it ventilated. :D
By Zayas 142 , 14/03/06 10:24 PM (CommentID #001533)
WOW... SO NOW i HAVE TO BUY A $100 COOLING SYSTEM JUST TO PLAY MY XBX 360... WOW...WHAT TYPE OF BULL**** IS THAT....
By /.Church , 14/03/06 4:36 AM (CommentID #001504)
It's a bit rediculous that people can make these claims without significant proof about the systems stability. I've heard of a couple of cases, and yet already people are suing, it's stupid in my opinion, if you buy the first editions of something of course you could recieve a defunk model, simply ask for a replacement.
Just prooves how much of an impersonal world the Earth is turning into, instead of a letter explaining the problem, you sue.:(
By Anonymous , 14/03/06 2:44 AM (CommentID #001502)
Iv had my xbox on for 3 days straight and i havent experinced any crashs or anything. I think the whole ovr heating thing is bull****, if ur **** crashes wait five mins and turn it back on. its not worth buying a 100 buck water colloing system when the 360 doesnt need it
By the man , 27/02/06 4:39 PM (CommentID #001134)
only if you don'y want it to overhet after a few hours.:)
By drew , 19/02/06 6:57 PM (CommentID #001000)
what the heck so im gonna have to liquid cool my xbox 360 thats stupid:o
By primelink , 15/02/06 8:04 AM (CommentID #000948)
SAd but true but the XBox 360 is already water cooled .. but in a closed loop system .. so why void your warranty to haev some thing that it already has. plus the issue is with the power suppluy in the cable not the main unit ... so this would be useless.. I applaud the inginuity but lack of forseight ..
By Biren , 02/01/06 6:42 PM (CommentID #000335)
Shouldn't someone tell the 'potential buyers' that the overheating problem isnt within the xbox itself, but in the _external_ power supply?
By Kris , 02/01/06 4:08 PM (CommentID #000329)
why sweet jesus oh why would u want that, just let it over heat and slap a class action law suit it's all the rage in 2006, ask apple.
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